Subject: Re: Ban the Processor Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:05:35 -0500 From: Chad Ellis To: fkusumot@ix.netcom.com Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Never has a bit of frustrated humor provoked such a hostile response! David Nikita has not only chastised me for "suggesting" that the Processor be banned, he's lumped me in with all the people who want the Academy banned as well. So, at the risk of provoking one of the Dojo's endless "last-word" discussions, let me make a few things clear: 1. My post was 99% humor and only 1% serious. Before you shark someone's post and insult them with accusations of laziness or hands-throwing-up (I seldom eat hands anyway and have a strong stomach if I did), look for the subtle clues that they may be kidding a bit. If you look at my list of "suggestions" you'll notice that banning the card was grouped along with changing both it and RoP: Land so that the RoP could be an antidote. (I may be a bozo, but I hope no one thinks I'm such a bozo that I'd suggest THAT seriously.) 2. I do, nonetheless, find the Processor to be one of those cards that takes away from play. Sure, like any other card it takes still and judgement to maximize its value. In my game with Darwin if I'd been a greedy scrub I'd have cast it turn-four and watched it get sunk right into my graveyard. And if I'd paid one life or fifteen life, Darwin might have won. Wow. Skill really settled that game. So, while I don't think it should be banned, I did feel like ranting about it and DO think that Wizards should not have printed it in its current form. (Any number of modifications could have kept it interesting for constructed without making it a game-over card in Limited.) Just my opinion. 3. Saying all rares are inherently broken is a bit silly, especially in the same paragraph that you mention Brand. Sure, many rares are powerful and unbalancing in Limited, but I can't think of any that match the Processor. As I mentioned in my post, in all my Limited play I've never had what I considered a solid deck and then said, "Well, if he draws that card I guess I just lose," or "Wow, if I draw this card and he can't deal with it right away I just win." Not Living Death, not Wrath of God, not Stormbind, not the Tradewind Rider who single-handedly took me to Top 8 in a PTQ, not anything. Most of those cards are also harder to play well than the Processor. Put another way, if all rares WERE as "inherently broken" as the Processor, Limited would be a very boring and low-skill format. 4. I don't think the Academy or any of its components needs to be banned, although they may well at some point. My current Type II deck (which reached the finals of a Mox tournament and made Top 8 at MA States) has Pyroblasts, Disenchants and Lobotomies for the Academy deck to face in games two and three. It's still scary and still a very powerful deck, but I'm with the crowd that's fighting to make a good deck that works in the current metagame and I kinda like having the Academy around. In general, I don't like to see a card banned until it's demonstrated its brokenness over a longer period of time. I'm still re-reading my post to see how my semi-delusional ramblings (as I called them) even MENTION the Academy. 5. I do not always over-react to critical posts and am not on a campaign to fill the Dojo with delusional ramblings. This is a special case. Hugs, Chad Candidate for advancement from Strong Among the Weak to Weak Among the Strong >From now on will always TELL Frank to put silly postings in the humor section rather than merely suggesting it...