Subject: $0.02 on what-to-do-about-cheating Date: 19 Jul 1998 21:09:08 -0400 From: denelsbe@cs.unc.edu (Kevin Denelsbeck) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy I just read Dan Gray's article on the Dojo and I'm glad to hear that Guidelines are in the works. Perhaps these Guidelines will be in the form of "legal decisions" (like the U.S. courts use) which cite previous rulings as precedents. In this day and age, dissemination of new rulings should be able to be done very quickly. In that vein, it strikes me that the reason that we don't see harsher penalties at Big Tournaments is because there's a lot of money at stake and the DCI doesn't want to get into a messy court case. To some degree, understandable. If this is indeed is the problem (and I certainly think it's something to consider), why not get players to sign an agreement when entering a DCI-sanctioned tournament? Just put a brief statement (with a signature line) on the decklist sheet that says something like: "I agree to abide by the decisions of the Head Judge and the Judging staff, and not pursue legal recourse for monies, prizes, or qualifications that I deem lost due to incompetent judging or incorrect rulings made during the tournament. I understand that I may, through a formal process [specifics from floor rules or whatever] lodge appeals with the DCI if I feel unfairly treated by the Head Judge and judging staff during this tournament." If a player doesn't sign the agreement, he/she can't play in the tournament. Perhaps make him/her sign it in front of a judge when the decklist is turned in. Once the agreement is signed, the judges can have a clearer conscience about penalizing appropriately, especially if there are legitimate fears that a penalized player would otherwise sue. The appeal process is already in place, I think, but it would be interesting if a sort of "Supreme Court" of Level 4 judges made adjudications of the icky cases. Does this sound extreme? I hope not. Heck, look at the back of the average pro baseball stadium ticket -- it explicitly states that the bearer of the ticket can't sue for damages if hit by a foul ball or errant bat. In a society as litigious as ours, this statement is absolutely necessary. Kevin -- Kev @ UNC _|_ HILLARY: Some things are better left unsaid. denelsbeATcsDOTuncDOTedu | NICK: Like what? www.cs.unc.edu/~denelsbe | GO HEELS! /"\ -- from "Top Secret!"