Subject: Too Many Damn Expansions Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:17:54 GMT From: bpocock@golden.net (Ben Pocock) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy I've played Magic The Gathering a long time. I was in it, I made tons of money on it, then I left the game. I remember the days when I had decks with 4 time walks, 4 time twisters, 4 ancestral, 2 of each mox and 2 Black Lotus. No one had heard about tournaments. I can even remember paying $120 for 2 boxes of Fallen Empires when the expansion first came out. It was a short time later when I stopped playing the game, and Fallen Empires might have had something to do with that (yeah, I'm still bitter). You've heard this line before, but they are simply producing way too many cards, and not enough that anyone would really play with. Most cards, even if you do play with them, don't really effect the play environment that much. It's hard for me to justify buying more boosters of any set, although I usually buy a box of a new expansion when it comes out. Sure, there are a few cards that actually are worthy of play, and some good commons here and there. It's almost worth it to simply buy the cards you need instead of buying boosters. When it comes down to it, I really don't understand why WotC releases three new expansions a year? Do they think they're making more money than if they produce one large and more aggressive expansion that people can buy and collect? The more cards they produce, the harder collecting becomes. Honestly, how many people really try and collect a complete set of every expansion? When Unlimited, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, and Legends were out, I bet you about 40% of the people collected. Now, maybe 1-2% are serious collectors. OK, so I came back from retirement and started playing six months ago! I didn't have any cards from the following expansions: The Dark, Iceage, Homelands, Alliances, Visions, Mirage, or Weatherlight. I had sold all my power cards (P9, OOPs, Legends, AN, etc). I still had quite a few cards, over 200 rares, and four of every common and uncommon in 4th. Oh yeah, I also had two complete sets of Fallen Empires :-). People were showing me River Boa's, Q Rangers, Necro, Firestorm, and other neat cards. Still, I was competing quite well and having fun playing until I got the "I'm playing type 2" line. This brings up a problem in that many gaming groups abide by Type 2 protocol in order to restrict the deadliness of the decks. I've seen people complain about decks that aren't Type 2, and then flat out refuse to play them. This is true even when the decks are just fun decks. Many of the people who don't play strict Type 2 do so because they are missing the key cards in the current expansions. On the flip side of the coin, many other non-Type 2 players have these death-machine "I'll obviously win or lose by turn 4" Extended format decks or even T1 decks. I think most players are going to have to learn moderation. Sure, it's cool to win all the time, but try something different. It's also fine to be bitter that you can't play all your cards in Type 2 constructed, but try buying a few cards if you like the game; if you don't like the game, don't bother playing. Another question that comes to my mind is what the hell is the point of the 5th edition. When they first produced Revised and then 4th edition, it was to remove some of the too powerful cards and sub in some cards that you couldn't get anymore. You know, those really shitty Arabian Nights, Antiquity and Legends cards. I guess all those angry players, pissed off that they couldn't play with Bird Maidens, Yawgmoth Demon or Aladdin, wrote WotC and complained. I think WotC misinterpreted the mass's message. People wanted to play with the good Arabian Nights cards such as Library of Alexander, Juzam Djinn, Diamond Valley, and Ali from Cairo. We certainly did NOT want to play with Bird Maidens. Still, I can see removing the P9 and other powerful cards to balance the game. I can even see how WotC subbed in some stupid and useless cards to replace them (WEAK). So they produce 5th edition and reprint all those hard to get Ice Age cards. Cause heck, no one sells Ice Age anymore! What the hell is the point? The only card even remotely useful in 5th that I can't pick up readily in other expansion sets is Ball Lightning. And 6th edition should be even more a joke. Lets sub in cards from three expansions that I will be easily able to get cards for in the next year or two. Great. Thanks guys. The only reason for this is so that people can play certain cards in Type 2. Is this some fucked up system or what? Lets produce a few expansions that will be obsolete in a few months. Then lets make another set that tells us what cards from the banned expansions we can play. But, lets also produce so much that anyone can buy cards from any set. This way, we can make as many cards useless as possible as quickly as possible. You might think that's enough cannibalism for any company. But no, WotC decided they'd produce Chronicles. Yes, a reprinting of many early cards that you can't play with in T2 constructed. To make matters worse, I don't think there is a single card I'd play in Extended or T2 with the exception of Nicol Bolas in a Buried Alive deck. So, more useless cards in a useless expansion. In October, Urza's Saga is going to rotate out everything up to Weatherlight. Taking into consideration the number of sets being produced, in October 1999 everything up to Exodus will be rotated out. I have a job, I make some money, I can afford to buy a couple boxes of cards. I'm not sure how to take this, because I like playing with new cards and abilities. However, the diversity of decks will drop substantially when you rotate out an entire block and bring only a few cards in from the new basic edition, and a lot of people simply can't or won't part with even more money to play with less cards. It seems to me that MTG has become a sport instead of a game. I realise it may sound harsh to some people, but you probably want to dish out about $150 in cards a year to compete and have fun. This really isn't too much money, but more often then not you end up spending $500-600 despite your promise not to. You can probably play cheaper, but that means simply buying a few power cards and playing with one or two prototype decks. This is always boring. Oh well, I've complained enough. I won't even get into my conspiracy theory that Tourney organisers are bribing high ranked officials at WotC to make even deadlier red cards. This way the matches end quicker allowing the organisers to be less organised... sorry... I won't get into that. Just my humble 0.02. This article will be on my web page at http://www.golden.net/~bpocock. Have a good day, and I hope to see some of you at the Exodus Pre-release in Toronto. -------------------------------------------------- Ben Pocock bpocock@golden.net http://www.golden.net/~bpocock --------------------------------------------------